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The Anthropic growth numbers here are staggering and they connect directly to the Palantir valuation debate. Anthropic hit $30B ARR in roughly 5 years. Palantir hit $5B in 20 years. Both companies sell AI integration to enterprises, but Anthropic is doing it through APIs and agents, not forward-deployed engineers on-site.

I just published a deep dive on PLTR showing 71x revenue, roughly 300x owner earnings after normalizing for SBC and taxes. Even in the most generous Monte Carlo scenario (45% revenue CAGR, 48% margins), the stock doesn't even come close $136. If you layer in the competitive threat from Anthropic commoditizing the orchestration layer, the bear case gets stronger.

The pricing discipline angle is interesting though. If AI model costs rise, does that make Palantir's "we integrate any model" positioning more or less valuable?

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You're completely right at the micro level. My maths might be completely out on this but I think if you were to calculate the API cost against the rough limits for Claude/ChatGPT/Gemini you get something like $40, $32, $19.50 if someone was to max out their credits daily for a whole month (assumes a 3:1 input:output token rate at 1M tokens).

At a macro level it's unlikely to be true that everyone is maxing out their limits for each session so they are likely to still be making money on each subscription but come IPO this is exactly what will be analysed in excruciating detail to understand what non-API subsidisation rate is likely to be. The move by Claude recently to almost charge a "seat cost entry" and then all credits are paid for on top for Enterprises further proves your points correct above moving towards IPO levels of self-sufficiency.

The huge risk will be the continuing supply-chain risk designation that they'll need to fully resolve pre-IPO. The reading of the situation I have is that Anthropic will be baking in more safety into their models at pre-training which the DoD won't like.

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